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Erbil / Interview Amer Qaisi
Down from the mountains of Kurdistan official leadership and Peshmerga fighters in the ranks to face the tyranny of the authority of the Baath dictatorship, made his way in politics to become president of the Parliament of the Kurdistan region. Mild-mannered flow of ideas and opinions in his smooth high
Explicit and precise and confident of his ideas. That Dr. Kamal Kirkuki, who said the "long" on the U.S. withdrawal, "they had to leave sooner or later, but I think that the decision to pull out now because we're still early in the conflict with al-Qaeda terrorist and the remnants of the Baathist regime." Withdrawal and other issues and concerns in Iraq was on the table Kirkuki in this dialogue.
An early U.S. withdrawal
There is now an issue between politicians and between the various Iraqi political blocs and between Baghdad and Kurdistan on the withdrawal of U.S. troops. How do you see this and what are its effects on the political reality of Iraq and Kurdistan as well?
- For the Kurdistan region was not the Americans we have to maintain our position. The people of Kurdistan, a collaborator with the political leadership in the region and its democratic institutions, available here, a kind of stability and work to serve the citizens and the implementation of democracy in the region, and we hope to be a model for the rest of Iraq. We tried to solve our problems through dialogue in a civilized manner. For the U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, it was premature and the fact they had to leave sooner or later, but the current circumstances, I think is appropriate, the war against terrorism continues and there are remnants of the Baathist regime who do not want the good and the success of this country, and there are many people who want to restore Iraq to the Middle Ages , and also there is profound disagreement with all the great regret of polar Shiite and Sunni in Iraq, all of these things require - for the success of the democratic experiment in Iraq - the need to allied forces not under the name of the occupation, but under the title of assistance and support for the political process in the country, to succeed the democratic experience in Iraq, because the failed experiment in Iraq will be .. Reflected negatively on the overall changes in the Middle East, the early withdrawal has negative effects in the region.
Political consensus has not been achieved
Where the process is the center of the political crises and reproduction of political disputes between the various political blocs, and between Baghdad and Erbil, and social components itself? Where we are going? And how long the citizen remain waiting in line to everyone to start a genuine political process to the atmosphere of the construction and construction?
- There was, as you know after the elections of the House of Representatives the current problems between the parties for the failure to form a government to enter the Kurdish regional president Massoud Barzani, to gather together all the political parties in Erbil, and then he went to Baghdad and were able to elect a speaker - the Iraqi parliament, and then President of the Republic , then the Prime Minister and Minister determine - there was agreement between the parties, unfortunately, has not yet achieved the political consensus that leads right to the leadership of Iraq without the proper tension. So far the security ministries has not been resolved and the Political Council, which was supposed to be achieved is still delayed, many of the outstanding issues between Erbil and Baghdad, we are waiting for their application, there is no other promises, all these things we hope the brothers officials in the State of Iraq, of any component was a Sunni or Shiite or that the Kurdish Itlahmoua and cooperate to remove the obstacles to the functioning of Iraq forward.
The Constitution is the solution
This is part of wishes and we hope always to end the problems of the political process but where to turn? Seems that the air hazy and ambiguous, the citizen does not know where the truth, and who is right, and who is wrong?
- Work to achieve the wishes something good instead of being a human pessimistic, I believe, must abide by the constitution of Iraq and the application of its provisions without recourse to the jurisprudence personal political or sectarian, under any pretext, if we committed ourselves to apply the provisions of the constitution, it will be time in the ship security of all Sunni and Shiite and Kurdish The Christian and Turkmen and all components, the Iraqi constitution says that our federal democratic, as if we went to the fact that this trend will solve all the problems of Iraq.
Convention on the fate of Arbil
Where the fate of the Convention on the Erbil? Iraqi says not implemented them anything and state law says it was implemented, 90%. Is expired, especially that the President Apply Now initiative to gather the leaders of political blocs to resolve the outstanding issues?
- Initiative by the president of the province was intended to collect the various parties and the formation of the presidency of the parliament and the government and the President. Initiative is successful and practical application lies with the current officials stationed in Iraq who have to come together and cooperate to remove barriers to these problems, as kindly is true there are many items have not been applied, for the brothers who said they applied the 90% or did not apply I did not hear such these statistics.
The government, she said .. State law specifically
- The situation in Iraq is not easy I appreciate Mr. Maliki and I have every respect, Fezrovh difficult, but it should do more to fulfill the promises made by the people of Iraq and the Kurdistan region and even the Muslim Brotherhood Shiites and Sunnis.
How do you evaluate performance of the prime minister's political and not a service, such as giving promises without implementation and the trend towards individualism, tyranny, and not to hear the opinion of others and the marginalization of the rest of the forces and not paying any attention to their views in relation to domestic and foreign policy of Iraq?
- I think that Mr. Maliki, Sadiq inside and wants the best for Iraq and trying to work a lot but the current circumstances in Iraq could hinder a lot of directions, but the important continuity in cooperation with other parties to remove obstacles, perhaps some of the problems out of the people close to Mr. Maliki, who was not aware him with it. the situation in Iraq requires more organization itself and not to forget promises to try out, as they say slowly.
But al-Maliki accused the political parties of failing to honor its promises and lack of implementation, including the Kurds have given you a lot of promises did not adhere to them?
- For those of us in the Kurdistan region say that the sometimes difficult conditions in Iraq make the human being, even if it is sincere and the net will and wants to make a lot of things for the benefit of Iraq may be delayed. Brother-Maliki for promises of a response has not yet up to the point that I would not say this and that. He says that the topics of the solution for the Kurdistan region constitutional, and I promised that we will work to achieve them, we should not rule in advance that it does not apply to promises. The policy of the Region, Dr. Barham prime minister traveled to Baghdad with a delegation and there was a meeting with senior officials and with brother Nuri al-Maliki and his views were very positive for us and there is a time limit and we hope to achieve what we heard.
Now there is another issue hot is the issue of regions raised Salahuddin province, which has applied to be a territory, in this topic we change attitudes, forces that defended the terms of the regions and the federal and specific state law now stands against him, which was standing against the regions of the Constitution, the Iraqi Now she specifically defends the regions, how to consider this subject, the government's position first, then the position of the forces that moved from support to rejection and vice versa?
- For the Iraqi constitution says, Iraq, federal, democratic, and this is right from the heart of the rights of any province, according to the Constitution of Iraq, if one third of the province asked to form a territory, the government regulate matters of the referendum the people of this province, is approved by a majority in the region, this is right for them a legitimate and legal and constitutional, is not entitled to any person or body or authority in the country to prevent them, it is true that the brothers of the year when we were talking about federalism was reaped madness because they think that this division of Iraq and the dismemberment of Iraq, we tell them always if you have shaped in your region a federal system, there will be limits specific to your problems private and will also be your focus on the development of your region, if that be the conflict between the region and other regions, serve the people more and better and there is no conflict of kill more, they do not recognize this point of view and consider the division of Iraq, on the contrary we consider to strengthen the survival of Iraq's unity, because citizen in the territory of the regions when the self-governing and participant in the federal authority and resources of oil and gas is right for all the Iraqi people, distributed in proportion to the population at that time is not to have node power, nor any other node and concentrated efforts to resolve the problems of the region, may continue for some time but in the end be the best and the best experience is the experience of Kurdistan, yes there was a tragedy and problems, but today we are developing for the better and the recognition of the various parties within Iraq and the region as well as the world, for our brothers who come to the justification is that the time is appropriate and is not the time to form federations with all due respect to them but their position is not in place is not entitled to this or that person or the official or the other to strike the Constitution the wall for the formation of these regions eventually will write her well and after the application of Article 140 would be better because there are some districts and areas of some provinces now belonging to the other provinces, we have to rush from for the completion of the application of Article 140 so as not to be no problems inherited from the past to the future and the results are negative on the present.
Erdogan open
attacks Iranian and Turkish borders Iraq in Kurdistan under the pretext of pursuing the PKK for Turkey and Pejak for Iran, despite the diplomatic efforts of the leadership of the region and particularly the initiative, which was said regional president Barzani may carry them to the Turks and the frequent visits of the leaders of the region but that the bombing and the attacks are still going . The question is: What is the status of these efforts?
- An ongoing problem and a list of the Kurdish problem in this region and this problem does not solve the existing political violence, especially in the current era, as well as improper if a Kurdish party resorted to the use of violence. Experience for our brothers Viltrkiya We hope to be the way to solve their problems away from violence and resort to dialogue and follow the road of democracy and the peaceful path of Parliament. Experience of democratic openness on the Kurds by Erdogan this we consider a significant shift for the Turkish state and also talked with the parties in Kurdish to take advantage of this attempt is a bold step, it is true for does not resolve the problems between the overnight but is a step blessing and we are in the region also support this trend can not be resolved the problem of a people by iron and fire, as well as also for the Kurdistan Workers' They can not achieve the national rights of the Kurdish people in Turkey through violence, and especially in the current circumstances, so the parties to abide ways peaceful and democratic solution. Relation to the border we Peshmerga lived in these areas and is rugged making the Creator, not man-made and can not be any power to control all corners of the mountainous regions overlapping between the two countries for Iran there is a kind of understanding and calm on the border and we hope our brothers in Turkey dealing with the topic peacefully in the case of continued violence we will not have any supporting role or instigator anyone, but if you chose the conflicting parties through dialogue and peaceful solutions will help in this way too much.
Government and the defense of the border
proneness threats to Turkey, and Iran of shelling, etc., and it came to the invasion of parts of Kurdistan, what is your assessment of the position of the Federal Government, is the duty of the province to defend the border or is it the duty of the federal government you already contacted the government, did any work even on the diplomatic level?
- The protection of the sky and the land of the region it is our duty and the duty of the federal government together because we are part of the federal government and its partners, but we know that the Iraqi government should have a big role and diplomatic as well as the role of the Government of the Territory because we appreciate the situation in Iraq now, and we have to work with some to prevent the recurrence of such attacks on our borders within the region in Iraq.
Not rated performance of the government in this case
- The government tried to diplomatically and was supposed to move more but this is what can be achieved for the government at the present time.
Working in the field of oil in the framework of the Constitution
the positions of the Federal Government on the issue of exploitation of oil in Kurdistan, some observers say the government's position that the crippling of the reconstruction and oil investment in Kurdistan. Observers say that the response of this investment a constitutional issue and the position of the government led to the withdrawal of some major companies to invest in Kurdistan?
- In relation to the issue of oil we are working according to the Iraqi constitution. Before we enter into contracts to foreign companies turned to law firms specializing Constitution to tell us the view that our contracts were within the limits of constitutional or not, and got them to the conclusion that we have the right under the Constitution to conclude such contracts, so we took this step. For some of them to Baghdad with my personal respect for them raising the issue of personal considerations.
mean al-Shahristani, the oil ministry?
- Yes, with my respect for him because he was a man fighter against the Baathist regime there may be a personal thing between him and some officials in the region, against the interests of the region Vtbarhath influential openly and that he was a man fighter Valmanadilon have to be sustained each other. For any reason he should look for solutions to these problems in the province of Kurdistan is not a country in another continent or in the sky as part of a federal Iraq and if the development of the region, the finest for all of Iraq when the export of oil in the region where the produce, of course, during the Iraqi oil pipelines and Mdjulath intervention to the budget of all of Iraq, according to the terms of the Constitution we have the right to manage the oil wells newly produced, the threat to companies operating in the oil and gas is not feasible, certainly for companies, legal experts are studying the Iraqi constitution and the law of oil in the Kurdistan region and then move, do not move if they know they would be in legal trouble with the federal government because the state of Iraq as a whole and the sources of oil in Iraq, many do not think that a large foreign company is willing to sacrifice their interests for the region, the major, if I knew that the oil investment in Kurdistan, it will cause legal problems and violation of the Constitution.
The fact that a personal problem and not a constitutional
Is it possible that the political lead of the Ministry as serious as the Oil Ministry and acting on a personal basis?
- Human rights is perhaps his understanding of the situation in another or that he died of something. We have the oil and gas law Cheranah at the time, while even now the law of oil and gas is not prescribed by the Iraqi parliament, we have to sit at the negotiating table for the benefit of the Iraqi people and a commitment to the Iraqi constitution, as abide by the constitution for us of the priorities of things, when that does not remain a problem If the negotiations remained through the media, it does not serve the Iraqi people.
legal study that you talked about on oil investment in Kurdistan, Can you provide the Government and Oil Minister Shahristani, Naqstmohm the constitutionality of what you are doing on oil?
- Certainly Valmt_khasson in the government of the region working in this area when they meet with officials in the Ministry of oil or the federal government telling them that and say we are on the right of these reasons and also for us ministers, Deputy Prime Minister and President of the Republic and the Minister of Foreign Affairs and working for all of Iraq, and the visit of Prime Minister Barham valid for Baghdad, all these moves to bring these positions to the federal government and I am surprised and amazed them why did not Atqrbua to find solutions to the problem.
Human rights and the democratic experience
What is your assessment of the human rights situation in the region, especially since there are forces speak for violations. We want your opinion as chairman of the House of Kurdistan and not political?
- With the transition from totalitarian rule dictatorship for 35 years to a democratic system, it is certain there will be some mistakes and excesses in relation to human rights, but what has been achieved so far so good and people's rights reserved under the law and when there are excesses in one place, when proved, will be taken management in the territory appropriate measures to preserve the rights of the people. I'm not saying there are no excesses, but if we compare the situation in Kurdistan with the rest of Iraq, it is much better Kodouh night and day
We want to compare them with international standards of human rights in other governorates of Iraq, there are flagrant violations of human rights.
- Even if you try any country in the world, the application of international standards violations by the 100% hit, and be to eliminate the role of punishment of the offenders, but we have the situation well and if there are violations, there are legal proceedings as well. Probably got here and there and if not up to the courts is something else, but we trust the justice of our judiciary.
There is no prison in Kurdistan because of his political views?
- Definitely not .. No political prisoners and free of political views, we have more than a thousand field of media in the region and often attack us through the articles and information that does not sound at all, however, give them the opportunity to return to the proper methods.
Ablation and the experience of Kurdistan
We have a problem in Iraq, an issue that is being de-Baathification and the debate over their hands stained with the blood of the people or not. The problem now appears to be non-existent in the region despite the existence of the Kurds who have contributed to the suppression of the Kurdish people and they were tools in the hands of Saddam's regime against their compatriots how the experiment addressed the Kurdish issue?
- Government of the Territory has issued a general amnesty for all those who cooperated with the Baath regime except their hands stained with the blood of our people. Not tolerate those who killed our people and they were criminals.
However, the fact of the Baath regime
The amnesty law now .. Includes Who?
- Amnesty for those who have committed ordinary crimes they spent inside the prisons where long periods of time, and there are reports of good behavior in prison, Amnesty gives them a chance to be good citizens and provide them with assistance to improve their situation. The bill had not yet discussed in the parliament and we are working to speed up the legislation to the benefit of those who deserve amnesty.
Democracy and the Arab spring
Arab spring and the changes in the region, how do you view this?
- We are with the right of peoples to self-determination and report the crossing towards creating a democratic political life of these peoples are evolving for the better. I hope that this revolution toward democracy and serve the people. The change in the region and the Arab spring has happened in Kurdistan and Iraq in an uprising in 1991, but political conditions and regional balances aborted this spring in the rest of Iraq, but we set off it since 1991 in a section of the regions of Kurdistan - Iraq.
What is your assessment of the Iraqi government's position in the Arab League Council on the situation in Syria?
- We have to leave the Syrian people determine their own future and was on the Iraqi stance in the Arab League to be supportive of the Syrian people for democracy in their country.
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