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US troop withdrawal let Islamic State enter Iraq, military leaders say
SUNDAY, JULY 26, 2015
A number of current and former is military Leaders who provenance was in power When all US Troops left Iraq today are saying the complete exit That left the door open for the Islamic State's land grab.
The assessment comes from the Army chief of staff, former is a Marine commandant, a former is US Central Command chief, a former is defense secretary and, privately, from the officer now running the war in Iraq Against the Islamic State, Also known as ISIS and ISIL .
The question is: Will these lessons-learned public comments sway the Presidential campaign debate on what shouldnt be done to defeat the army Terrorist ?
Officials say the military a residual American air-and-land combat force Could have steeled Iraqi Security Forces and the Islamic State Blunted's invasion of northern and western Iraq are winter and spring. Could the US have Prevented the harm done to Iraq 's command structure by Nouri al-Maliki as prime Minister and Helped Quell bickering Among Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds.
Army Gen. Raymond T. Odierno was the top commander in Iraq in the post-surge troop-era That all but eliminated al Qaeda's vicious franchise. When are the Troops went home in December 2 011, he sat Among the Joint Chiefs as the Army 's chief of staff, his current position.
Gen. Odierno the recently Told Fox News: "If Had we stayed a little more engaged, I think maybe it Might have Been Prevented. I've always believed the United States played the role of honest broker between all the groups, and when we pulled ourselves out, we lost that role. "
He had recommended keeping 35,000 troops in place in 2011. "I think it would have been good for us to stay," he said.
Marine Corps Gen. Joseph Dunford , a commander in Iraq 's Anbar province, in his July 9 confirmation hearing to be the next Joint Chiefs chairman, with Differed Those who said the US Had no choice but to leave Because Iraq 's prime Minister was not meeting US Demands .
"I'm not sure I'd say that that meant we had no option to stay," he told the Senate Committee on Armed Services.
Gen. Dunford 's predecessor as Marine commandant, and one of Gen. Odierno 's Colleagues on the Joint Chiefs at the time, was Gen. James Amos .
Last summer, as the Islamic State shocked the Obama administration by consolidating Gains in Anbar province and Mosul, Iraq 's second-Largest city, Gen. Amos traveled to the Brookings Institution.
"I have a hard time believing that, had we been there, and worked with the government, and worked with parliament, and worked with the minister of defense, the minister of interior, I do not think we'd be in the same shape we're in today, "he said.
Also He said the US must Remain Committed overseas - a view That could be read as the complete Criticizing Iraq Pullout.
"We may think we're done with all of these nasty, thorny, tacky little things that are going on around the world - and I'd argue that if you're in that nation, it's not a tacky, little thing for you .
We may think we're done with them, but they're not done with us, "said Gen. Amos , who was a few months away from retirement at That time.
For some, making the case That leaving Iraq was a mistake Bolsters the argument That the US needs to do more than the limited Obama-approved mission of Airstrikes and Advising and training the Iraqi Security Forces Beleaguered.
Michael Rubin, a military analyst at the American Enterprise Institute, said the Iraq withdrawal Statements set up a Presidential campaign debate on Whether President Obama's foreign policy is "an outlier in the scheme of things, or will it be the new normal?"
"There is Consensus Among military practitioners - traditionally, are the people in the world who want to go to war - That leaving Iraq was a mistake, "Mr. Rubin said. "The question now is whether potential candidates from both parties are content to simply blame the mess on Obama, or whether they are prepared to do something about it.
"Alas, I'm afraid, at this point, that many of those who wish to succeed Obama are more about posture than committed action."
Two months after Gen. Amos spoke at Brookings, an even more powerful voice Emerged. Leon E. Panetta, the defense secretary at the time of the Iraq withdrawal, Told "60 Minutes" on CBS the exit was a mistake.
He said that as the American flag was wrapped up for the trip home, he was not confident it was the right move.
"I really thought it was important for us to Maintain a Presence in Iraq , and the Decision was Ought we to at Least try to Maintain [8,000] to 10,000 US Troops there, plus keeping some of our intelligence personnel in place to be Able to continue the momentum in the right direction, "Mr. Panetta said.
Marine Gen. James Mattis headed US Central Command During the Pullout. When Asked at a hearing 2 013 if a residual force Could have made a difference in Iraq , he said it was unclear.
In retirement, he appeared in January before the same Senate Committee on Armed Services and offered a clearer opinion.
"I would tell you that the military, the senior military officers, we all explained that the successes we'd achieved by 2010-2011 were - and this is a quote - 'reversible,' that the democratic processes and the military capability were too nascent to pull everyone out at one time, "Gen. Mattis testified.
Status of forces agreement
Retired Army Gen. Jack Keane was a key architect of the Iraq troop surge, Which Replaced a strategy of US Generally warriors being confined to bases the while the Iraqis provenance was being trained to take over.
Today, he is one of the most vocal critics of the decision to leave, as he saw all the gains made in 2007 to 2011 washed away in a wave of Islamic State terrorists taking territory and committing mass killings.
"As we pulled out of Iraq in two thousand and eleven, just think of this: We had all our intelligence capability there. We knew where the enemy was. We were flying drones. We're tracking them. We have signals intelligence pouring in, eavesdropping on phone conversations and the rest of it. We're using our counterterrorism forces to bang against these guys. We're passing that to the Iraqis so their commandos can do the same, "Mr. Keane told The Washington Times in a 2014 interview. "On a given day in 2011, that screen went blank. The Iraqis went from a significant amount of intelligence on what was taking place, and the screen just went blank. "
There is also a hidden voice of dissent. At the time of the withdrawal, Army Gen. Lloyd Austin III was are the US commander in Iraq . He viewed the Gains in Iraq as reversible and recommended keeping about 20.00 Troops in country.
But his words, and those of other military advisers, were not heeded as Mr. Obama celebrated the service members are leaving Iraq as an end to the war.
"We're leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq , with a Representative Government That was elected by its people, "the president said in December 2 011.
Gen. Austin today is in charge of US Central Command and, color: such as, directs the new war in Iraq .
Why was the Bush administration's 2008 status of forces agreement allowed to take final effect in Dec. 2011 as military leaders recommended a continued American commitment? It is fair to say That then-Prime Minister al-Maliki , his relations with Washington going from bad to worse, was not Greatly interested in rewriting the Agreement. Mr. Obama was not either, and made no diplomatic push to iron out differences.
"In the end, the Iraqi leadership did not try to get an agreement through their parliament that would have made possible a continued US military presence after Dec. 3, "Robert M. Gates, the defense secretary During the troop surge, wrote in his memoir," Duty. "
"Maliki was just too fearful of the Political Consequences. Most Iraqis wanted us gone. It was a regrettable turn of events for our future Influence in Iraq and our Strategic position in the region. And a win for Iran."
He added, "President Obama simply wanted the 'bad' war in Iraq to be ended. "
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SUNDAY, JULY 26, 2015
A number of current and former is military Leaders who provenance was in power When all US Troops left Iraq today are saying the complete exit That left the door open for the Islamic State's land grab.
The assessment comes from the Army chief of staff, former is a Marine commandant, a former is US Central Command chief, a former is defense secretary and, privately, from the officer now running the war in Iraq Against the Islamic State, Also known as ISIS and ISIL .
The question is: Will these lessons-learned public comments sway the Presidential campaign debate on what shouldnt be done to defeat the army Terrorist ?
Officials say the military a residual American air-and-land combat force Could have steeled Iraqi Security Forces and the Islamic State Blunted's invasion of northern and western Iraq are winter and spring. Could the US have Prevented the harm done to Iraq 's command structure by Nouri al-Maliki as prime Minister and Helped Quell bickering Among Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds.
Army Gen. Raymond T. Odierno was the top commander in Iraq in the post-surge troop-era That all but eliminated al Qaeda's vicious franchise. When are the Troops went home in December 2 011, he sat Among the Joint Chiefs as the Army 's chief of staff, his current position.
Gen. Odierno the recently Told Fox News: "If Had we stayed a little more engaged, I think maybe it Might have Been Prevented. I've always believed the United States played the role of honest broker between all the groups, and when we pulled ourselves out, we lost that role. "
He had recommended keeping 35,000 troops in place in 2011. "I think it would have been good for us to stay," he said.
Marine Corps Gen. Joseph Dunford , a commander in Iraq 's Anbar province, in his July 9 confirmation hearing to be the next Joint Chiefs chairman, with Differed Those who said the US Had no choice but to leave Because Iraq 's prime Minister was not meeting US Demands .
"I'm not sure I'd say that that meant we had no option to stay," he told the Senate Committee on Armed Services.
Gen. Dunford 's predecessor as Marine commandant, and one of Gen. Odierno 's Colleagues on the Joint Chiefs at the time, was Gen. James Amos .
Last summer, as the Islamic State shocked the Obama administration by consolidating Gains in Anbar province and Mosul, Iraq 's second-Largest city, Gen. Amos traveled to the Brookings Institution.
"I have a hard time believing that, had we been there, and worked with the government, and worked with parliament, and worked with the minister of defense, the minister of interior, I do not think we'd be in the same shape we're in today, "he said.
Also He said the US must Remain Committed overseas - a view That could be read as the complete Criticizing Iraq Pullout.
"We may think we're done with all of these nasty, thorny, tacky little things that are going on around the world - and I'd argue that if you're in that nation, it's not a tacky, little thing for you .
We may think we're done with them, but they're not done with us, "said Gen. Amos , who was a few months away from retirement at That time.
For some, making the case That leaving Iraq was a mistake Bolsters the argument That the US needs to do more than the limited Obama-approved mission of Airstrikes and Advising and training the Iraqi Security Forces Beleaguered.
Michael Rubin, a military analyst at the American Enterprise Institute, said the Iraq withdrawal Statements set up a Presidential campaign debate on Whether President Obama's foreign policy is "an outlier in the scheme of things, or will it be the new normal?"
"There is Consensus Among military practitioners - traditionally, are the people in the world who want to go to war - That leaving Iraq was a mistake, "Mr. Rubin said. "The question now is whether potential candidates from both parties are content to simply blame the mess on Obama, or whether they are prepared to do something about it.
"Alas, I'm afraid, at this point, that many of those who wish to succeed Obama are more about posture than committed action."
Two months after Gen. Amos spoke at Brookings, an even more powerful voice Emerged. Leon E. Panetta, the defense secretary at the time of the Iraq withdrawal, Told "60 Minutes" on CBS the exit was a mistake.
He said that as the American flag was wrapped up for the trip home, he was not confident it was the right move.
"I really thought it was important for us to Maintain a Presence in Iraq , and the Decision was Ought we to at Least try to Maintain [8,000] to 10,000 US Troops there, plus keeping some of our intelligence personnel in place to be Able to continue the momentum in the right direction, "Mr. Panetta said.
Marine Gen. James Mattis headed US Central Command During the Pullout. When Asked at a hearing 2 013 if a residual force Could have made a difference in Iraq , he said it was unclear.
In retirement, he appeared in January before the same Senate Committee on Armed Services and offered a clearer opinion.
"I would tell you that the military, the senior military officers, we all explained that the successes we'd achieved by 2010-2011 were - and this is a quote - 'reversible,' that the democratic processes and the military capability were too nascent to pull everyone out at one time, "Gen. Mattis testified.
Status of forces agreement
Retired Army Gen. Jack Keane was a key architect of the Iraq troop surge, Which Replaced a strategy of US Generally warriors being confined to bases the while the Iraqis provenance was being trained to take over.
Today, he is one of the most vocal critics of the decision to leave, as he saw all the gains made in 2007 to 2011 washed away in a wave of Islamic State terrorists taking territory and committing mass killings.
"As we pulled out of Iraq in two thousand and eleven, just think of this: We had all our intelligence capability there. We knew where the enemy was. We were flying drones. We're tracking them. We have signals intelligence pouring in, eavesdropping on phone conversations and the rest of it. We're using our counterterrorism forces to bang against these guys. We're passing that to the Iraqis so their commandos can do the same, "Mr. Keane told The Washington Times in a 2014 interview. "On a given day in 2011, that screen went blank. The Iraqis went from a significant amount of intelligence on what was taking place, and the screen just went blank. "
There is also a hidden voice of dissent. At the time of the withdrawal, Army Gen. Lloyd Austin III was are the US commander in Iraq . He viewed the Gains in Iraq as reversible and recommended keeping about 20.00 Troops in country.
But his words, and those of other military advisers, were not heeded as Mr. Obama celebrated the service members are leaving Iraq as an end to the war.
"We're leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq , with a Representative Government That was elected by its people, "the president said in December 2 011.
Gen. Austin today is in charge of US Central Command and, color: such as, directs the new war in Iraq .
Why was the Bush administration's 2008 status of forces agreement allowed to take final effect in Dec. 2011 as military leaders recommended a continued American commitment? It is fair to say That then-Prime Minister al-Maliki , his relations with Washington going from bad to worse, was not Greatly interested in rewriting the Agreement. Mr. Obama was not either, and made no diplomatic push to iron out differences.
"In the end, the Iraqi leadership did not try to get an agreement through their parliament that would have made possible a continued US military presence after Dec. 3, "Robert M. Gates, the defense secretary During the troop surge, wrote in his memoir," Duty. "
"Maliki was just too fearful of the Political Consequences. Most Iraqis wanted us gone. It was a regrettable turn of events for our future Influence in Iraq and our Strategic position in the region. And a win for Iran."
He added, "President Obama simply wanted the 'bad' war in Iraq to be ended. "
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