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Interview with President Talabani channel (Arabic) satellite
His Excellency President Jalal Talabani
PUKmedia for Central listen 01/09/2012 09:28:49
Conducted Channel (Arabic) satellite interview with His Excellency the President Mr. Jalal Talabani, through a program (exclusive interview) in Sulaimaniya, said that the Iraqis can solve their problems and that the National Conference to be held in Baghdad has the support of the Iraqi parties as well as regional and international support. Following is the text of the interview:
* Introduction to the program Suhair Al-Qaisi: Welcome to this episode of the program (exclusive interview) that we are having with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani in Salmaniya - Iraqi Kurdistan, in the framework of the political movement witnessed by the Kurdistan region of Iraq in the light of the political crisis that prevailed in Baghdad recently and in the light the issuance of an arrest warrant is also the right of the Iraqi Vice President Tareq al-Hashemi and all the developments that have occurred in the Iraqi arena .. Welcome to His Excellency the President, first I want to ask about the political movement witnessed by the Kurdistan region of Iraq in general and also your Excellency as President of the Republic was to have meetings and talks, shuttling between the various parties, what resulted from all this movement?
- Iraqi Kurdistan has always been a center of Iraqi political forces, especially in times of crisis, in the era of the opposition Kurdistan was the center of the Iraqi opposition in all spectra, in the era of freedom from dictatorship and state-building Kurdistan was also a center for the mobility of a comprehensive political, even combining all Iraqi political forces on one program and to resolve differences , Iraqi Kurdistan, Erbil, known to the Convention, which facilitated the establishment of the current coalition government on the initiative of President Massoud Barzani, Kurdistan, Iraq and now see a move of all Iraqi political forces to resolve the crisis that currently exist in Baghdad.
Personally, I called to calm the situation and to the dismantling of the current crisis and then to inclusive national conference includes political actors to find a solution once and for all the problems outstanding in Iraq Fortunately, everyone responded to this call, whether the forces contributing to the government or the offense at the same time, Vaketlh Iraqi Prime Minister brother, Dr. Iyad Allawi responded responsive and well visited Kurdistan twice, and on Friday the leadership of the Iraqi bloc are all located in Sulaymaniyah and I met and declared their willingness to contribute to this conference and solve the existing problems, in addition to these meetings were held phone calls per day with Mr. Nuri al-Maliki, the prime minister and professor Ibrahim al-Jaafari, the head of the National Alliance in Parliament and with Sayyed Ammar al-Hakim, however, Dr. Adel Abdul Mahdi, and with many of the characters Iraqi actors and exchange of opinion in order to find a suitable solution to the current situation.
* Parties National Alliance responded with you to this idea of a National Conference?
- Yes, Prime Minister responsive from the beginning and I am in contact and good relationship with him, as well as Ammar al-Hakim is originally from the advocates of this idea, the idea of the table and he called the invitation to the round table, and I'm in my contacts with His Eminence and his grandmother is also a supporter of my call, which is the same call in the truth.
* But so far not seen a specific date or place for this conference, some interpreted as a rift, for example, venue of the supports are held in Erbil, and others want to take place in Baghdad?
- I will reveal a secret, which it was agreed to hold a meeting in Baghdad, and I will be traveling soon to Baghdad to start the first interviews the summit with senior leaders in the Iraqi parties and then begin to select the day of the expanded meeting of all, we are working on the basis of the work of the programmer, we formed a preparatory committee, two from each Party, the Committee create the program, location, etc ..., and was finally agreed that the conference will be held in Baghdad as the capital of Iraq and the problems there and the solution must be there too, and the meeting will be held soon, God willing, before the end of this week I will be in Baghdad, God willing, Now waiting for the arrival of a parliamentary delegation of the National Alliance, was supposed to travel on Monday, but put it off until Wednesday, on Wednesday, God willing, I'm in Baghdad, and then we start the daily work programmed for the reunion of all.
Q: But many say that even though the Iraqi Kurdistan Arbil incubator for agreement, but some of these agreements are not taken to be applied and renewed political conflict in Baghdad, which will ensure that this conference will come to fruition and succeed in resolving this crisis?
- We must be careful, in the agreements reached were implemented sections important of these agreements, but remained points have not been implemented, for example, the formation of the ministry, this step was important, the formation of the government and the distribution of ministerial positions also was an important step, what is not of the Convention on Arbil implementation is a political council and also to agree on some ministries, but many of the points were agreed upon, there is one guarantee of the implementation of the agreements, I think the guarantee lies in the agreement the parties and the seriousness of the parties to implement the deal, God willing, this time, if we agree in detail and on the roadmap for future work in Iraq, as well as agree on how to implement the agreements we reach it, and I'm sure that we will solve the problem, it is true there are difficulties, it is true there are problems, but in the end, the Iraqis are able to solve their problems.
* Did you discuss during your meetings for the President, the question of delivery Hashemi? Is Stzlmonh?
- Yes we discussed this issue, the issue is not a question of his extradition or not, Hashemi is not on the run, Take the case of Professor Tariq al-Hashimi objectively, is still Vice-President of the Republic, not separated by the Parliament, did not provide is to resign, then, is still formally a Vice President of the Republic.
Second, he is accused, but did not judge him according to law, the accused is innocent until proven guilty, not proven guilty until this moment, so it is not guilty and therefore he is innocent.
Thirdly, it is not on the run, do not refuse to appear before the court, all he asks is, and the brothers who support him that is the relocation of the trial from Baghdad to Kirkuk and is ready to go to court in Kirkuk, an Iraqi city under the central government, now Kirkuk outside the borders of the Kurdistan region, He is willing to go out there and offers his defense of the case, the issue here is the confusion by some people who do not understand the law and who speak in terms of sectarian intolerance and believe that Tariq al-Hashemi and Kurdistan embraced fugitive does not extradite him, and this is not true.
* He says I can not now return to Baghdad, for I am afraid for my life, said that if the continued threat may resort to Turkey, the statements suggest that his life is threatened?
- I think that there is a kind of exaggeration in this matter, I do not think that his life is in danger, but I think he wants to ensure a fair trial for the accused detainees, it is believed - whether this belief is true or not true - that the atmosphere in Kirkuk over to save freedom in Kirkuk could ensure the freedom of the accused to say that the facts, so ask the trial is taking place in Kirkuk.
Q: But some say the elimination of this question, I mean the elimination of the question in terms that the judiciary is not Benzih and not far from the political control?
- President of the Republic and as a lawyer in the original and Karef and a friend to the Chief Justice who was a colleague to me in the Faculty of Law, I certify that the Iraqi judiciary independent and free in its decisions and that the Iraqi judiciary is politicized or an affiliate of the Iraqi government, and I will reveal a secret in this area is that the case of Professor Tariq al-Hashimi started and Maliki was out of Iraq, where troops were searching for the group you want to carry out bombings during the ceremony Brotherhood Shiites and found by chance a person and through him was charged with a protections Tareq al-Hashemi, the question of accusing the judiciary can there be any doubts in the judiciary, but I testify before God and before history, the justice Iraqi independent and I know the Chief Justice.
By the way the Chief Justice at the time he was appointed by Iyad Allawi, a man of fair and independent judge correctly and completely.
* This is a political escalation of the political crisis coincided bombings in Baghdad and the nature of these bombings, we have the nature of bombings in 2006 and 2007, why when there is a crisis, Iraq is such a bomb, do the politicians involved with this issue?
- I want to say my personal opinion on this subject, Iraq was able to eliminate many of the terror gangs and was able to convince other militants to return to politics and leave the armed action, has been the key issue in the fight against terrorism lies at the base and the community of Izzat al-Douri, who are leading the remnants of Saddam's Baath Party.
Iraqi Baath Party of Saddam's banned constitutionally prohibited from working in Iraq by virtue of the Constitution and not the rule of law, in the sense that no government can violate the Constitution, the party began to restore its activity in some areas and the security services monitor this activity and reached stage that they threatened to radio bulletins and confidential bulletins public that they will start their operations after the escape of the Americans and the Americans fled as a result of their strikes and began to work, the security forces arrested some of the cells and the confessions of these cells led to the arrest of others, I would like to clarify three points in this issue:
First, these arrests were made after the appearance of events for these groups to expand their activities subversive.
Second, these arrests included the south and the north and not true to say that this campaign is against the Sunnis, the number of detainees Shiites in this matter more than the number of Sunni detainees in the case of the Baath party and the supervisor of the political process arrests a Kurd I know him well, a former lawyer, an expert, legal and personal I met him and assured me that he did not arrest any person without an order from the judiciary, and this campaign is not against all the Baathists, we still have a large number of ex-Baathists Itboaon prominent places, many of them leaders in the military and many of them are in government departments and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are no longer Saddamists no longer active in the reorganization of Saddam's Baath Party and Iraqi law does not criminalize all but deprived Baathist Saddam's Baath Party and all other Baathists have the right to be able to gain their rights in Iraq.
* I asked about the nature of these explosions, because there were comments stating that the conflict in Baghdad today is sectarian conflict, political and sectarian crisis par excellence, resulting from the bombings, sectarian in nature, do you really see today's sectarian strife in Baghdad between the politicians?
- First, the President of the Iraqi List, which is the party's foundation in the subject is Shiite, the Prime Minister the second party is a Shia and, secondly, the differences are not differences between Sunnis and Shiites, between Shia and Shia-Sunni year, for example, the Kurds Sunni, however, have differences as well as the Iraqi List, the white majority Shiites have differences with the Iraqi issue is thus not a question of the division of sectarian Shiite-Sunni, if the issue was a sectarian can see me with one of the parties As a Sunni Iraqis, the Iraqi bloc representing the majority Sunni and the Iraqi National Alliance is a Shiite majority and the two sides there are Sunni elements, the disagreement Praise be to God in Iraq did not turn to other than a Shiite - Sunni, though some people Haulo stirring sectarian strife, but there are differences in the truth about how to manage the state, for example, in conflict with opponents say yes there is a partnership in the true positions, Vice President of the Republic Sunni, Sunni speaker of parliament, many ministers years, Deputy Prime Minister a Sunni, but they say we are located in positions, which means the partnership exist in the positions, but the partnership does not exist in the state administration, this is their position, others say no, you are present in all circles, the Parliament and ministries and to you that you will your business, then there are differences, we are, God willing, to resolve these differences and so we will put Iraq on the right track, I mean to be a government of national partnership and a real partnership not only in the positions, but a partnership in the management of the state, in the management of Iraq policy, so there is a proposal that look at the next issue of a road map for Iraq after the withdrawal of U.S. troops.
* There have been statements of the spokesman for the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) said that there is an Arab and international support for the initiative of a national initiative of your Excellency and the National Congress, in support of these countries or parties?
- Regionally, Iran and Turkey supported the convening of this Conference and, as I know, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia also supported the conference, the Secretary-General of the Arab League, told me personally that the Arab League supports this conference and wish him success, the Americans and Europeans are in favor of this conference, orientation and China also supports so we can say that There are domestic support regional and international resolve Iraq's problems through this conference.
* What is your comment on the statements issued by the state law says that the host Jalal Talabani, Hashemi make the article (4) of the Terrorism Act apply to you?
- These statements were not of state law, which condemned the role of these statements are for one person from the list of state law, Sheikh Khalid al-Attiyah, spokesman for the state law condemned the remarks and forced that person to come and say that he did not intend, and these statements are void because the professor Tariq al-Hashimi is not governed so protect him, it is this very moment the vice president is accused and the accused is innocent until proven guilty and these statements false claim that a person does not understand the law and the meaning of terrorism and the rule of terror, Tariq al-Hashimi to now is not a terrorist, but the accused and the accused is innocent until proven guilty, and also that Tariq al-Hashemi did not escape even said I hugged him, he wants to come to court in Kirkuk and accept the results of government.
* His Excellency the President Thank you very much.
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His Excellency President Jalal Talabani
PUKmedia for Central listen 01/09/2012 09:28:49
Conducted Channel (Arabic) satellite interview with His Excellency the President Mr. Jalal Talabani, through a program (exclusive interview) in Sulaimaniya, said that the Iraqis can solve their problems and that the National Conference to be held in Baghdad has the support of the Iraqi parties as well as regional and international support. Following is the text of the interview:
* Introduction to the program Suhair Al-Qaisi: Welcome to this episode of the program (exclusive interview) that we are having with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani in Salmaniya - Iraqi Kurdistan, in the framework of the political movement witnessed by the Kurdistan region of Iraq in the light of the political crisis that prevailed in Baghdad recently and in the light the issuance of an arrest warrant is also the right of the Iraqi Vice President Tareq al-Hashemi and all the developments that have occurred in the Iraqi arena .. Welcome to His Excellency the President, first I want to ask about the political movement witnessed by the Kurdistan region of Iraq in general and also your Excellency as President of the Republic was to have meetings and talks, shuttling between the various parties, what resulted from all this movement?
- Iraqi Kurdistan has always been a center of Iraqi political forces, especially in times of crisis, in the era of the opposition Kurdistan was the center of the Iraqi opposition in all spectra, in the era of freedom from dictatorship and state-building Kurdistan was also a center for the mobility of a comprehensive political, even combining all Iraqi political forces on one program and to resolve differences , Iraqi Kurdistan, Erbil, known to the Convention, which facilitated the establishment of the current coalition government on the initiative of President Massoud Barzani, Kurdistan, Iraq and now see a move of all Iraqi political forces to resolve the crisis that currently exist in Baghdad.
Personally, I called to calm the situation and to the dismantling of the current crisis and then to inclusive national conference includes political actors to find a solution once and for all the problems outstanding in Iraq Fortunately, everyone responded to this call, whether the forces contributing to the government or the offense at the same time, Vaketlh Iraqi Prime Minister brother, Dr. Iyad Allawi responded responsive and well visited Kurdistan twice, and on Friday the leadership of the Iraqi bloc are all located in Sulaymaniyah and I met and declared their willingness to contribute to this conference and solve the existing problems, in addition to these meetings were held phone calls per day with Mr. Nuri al-Maliki, the prime minister and professor Ibrahim al-Jaafari, the head of the National Alliance in Parliament and with Sayyed Ammar al-Hakim, however, Dr. Adel Abdul Mahdi, and with many of the characters Iraqi actors and exchange of opinion in order to find a suitable solution to the current situation.
* Parties National Alliance responded with you to this idea of a National Conference?
- Yes, Prime Minister responsive from the beginning and I am in contact and good relationship with him, as well as Ammar al-Hakim is originally from the advocates of this idea, the idea of the table and he called the invitation to the round table, and I'm in my contacts with His Eminence and his grandmother is also a supporter of my call, which is the same call in the truth.
* But so far not seen a specific date or place for this conference, some interpreted as a rift, for example, venue of the supports are held in Erbil, and others want to take place in Baghdad?
- I will reveal a secret, which it was agreed to hold a meeting in Baghdad, and I will be traveling soon to Baghdad to start the first interviews the summit with senior leaders in the Iraqi parties and then begin to select the day of the expanded meeting of all, we are working on the basis of the work of the programmer, we formed a preparatory committee, two from each Party, the Committee create the program, location, etc ..., and was finally agreed that the conference will be held in Baghdad as the capital of Iraq and the problems there and the solution must be there too, and the meeting will be held soon, God willing, before the end of this week I will be in Baghdad, God willing, Now waiting for the arrival of a parliamentary delegation of the National Alliance, was supposed to travel on Monday, but put it off until Wednesday, on Wednesday, God willing, I'm in Baghdad, and then we start the daily work programmed for the reunion of all.
Q: But many say that even though the Iraqi Kurdistan Arbil incubator for agreement, but some of these agreements are not taken to be applied and renewed political conflict in Baghdad, which will ensure that this conference will come to fruition and succeed in resolving this crisis?
- We must be careful, in the agreements reached were implemented sections important of these agreements, but remained points have not been implemented, for example, the formation of the ministry, this step was important, the formation of the government and the distribution of ministerial positions also was an important step, what is not of the Convention on Arbil implementation is a political council and also to agree on some ministries, but many of the points were agreed upon, there is one guarantee of the implementation of the agreements, I think the guarantee lies in the agreement the parties and the seriousness of the parties to implement the deal, God willing, this time, if we agree in detail and on the roadmap for future work in Iraq, as well as agree on how to implement the agreements we reach it, and I'm sure that we will solve the problem, it is true there are difficulties, it is true there are problems, but in the end, the Iraqis are able to solve their problems.
* Did you discuss during your meetings for the President, the question of delivery Hashemi? Is Stzlmonh?
- Yes we discussed this issue, the issue is not a question of his extradition or not, Hashemi is not on the run, Take the case of Professor Tariq al-Hashimi objectively, is still Vice-President of the Republic, not separated by the Parliament, did not provide is to resign, then, is still formally a Vice President of the Republic.
Second, he is accused, but did not judge him according to law, the accused is innocent until proven guilty, not proven guilty until this moment, so it is not guilty and therefore he is innocent.
Thirdly, it is not on the run, do not refuse to appear before the court, all he asks is, and the brothers who support him that is the relocation of the trial from Baghdad to Kirkuk and is ready to go to court in Kirkuk, an Iraqi city under the central government, now Kirkuk outside the borders of the Kurdistan region, He is willing to go out there and offers his defense of the case, the issue here is the confusion by some people who do not understand the law and who speak in terms of sectarian intolerance and believe that Tariq al-Hashemi and Kurdistan embraced fugitive does not extradite him, and this is not true.
* He says I can not now return to Baghdad, for I am afraid for my life, said that if the continued threat may resort to Turkey, the statements suggest that his life is threatened?
- I think that there is a kind of exaggeration in this matter, I do not think that his life is in danger, but I think he wants to ensure a fair trial for the accused detainees, it is believed - whether this belief is true or not true - that the atmosphere in Kirkuk over to save freedom in Kirkuk could ensure the freedom of the accused to say that the facts, so ask the trial is taking place in Kirkuk.
Q: But some say the elimination of this question, I mean the elimination of the question in terms that the judiciary is not Benzih and not far from the political control?
- President of the Republic and as a lawyer in the original and Karef and a friend to the Chief Justice who was a colleague to me in the Faculty of Law, I certify that the Iraqi judiciary independent and free in its decisions and that the Iraqi judiciary is politicized or an affiliate of the Iraqi government, and I will reveal a secret in this area is that the case of Professor Tariq al-Hashimi started and Maliki was out of Iraq, where troops were searching for the group you want to carry out bombings during the ceremony Brotherhood Shiites and found by chance a person and through him was charged with a protections Tareq al-Hashemi, the question of accusing the judiciary can there be any doubts in the judiciary, but I testify before God and before history, the justice Iraqi independent and I know the Chief Justice.
By the way the Chief Justice at the time he was appointed by Iyad Allawi, a man of fair and independent judge correctly and completely.
* This is a political escalation of the political crisis coincided bombings in Baghdad and the nature of these bombings, we have the nature of bombings in 2006 and 2007, why when there is a crisis, Iraq is such a bomb, do the politicians involved with this issue?
- I want to say my personal opinion on this subject, Iraq was able to eliminate many of the terror gangs and was able to convince other militants to return to politics and leave the armed action, has been the key issue in the fight against terrorism lies at the base and the community of Izzat al-Douri, who are leading the remnants of Saddam's Baath Party.
Iraqi Baath Party of Saddam's banned constitutionally prohibited from working in Iraq by virtue of the Constitution and not the rule of law, in the sense that no government can violate the Constitution, the party began to restore its activity in some areas and the security services monitor this activity and reached stage that they threatened to radio bulletins and confidential bulletins public that they will start their operations after the escape of the Americans and the Americans fled as a result of their strikes and began to work, the security forces arrested some of the cells and the confessions of these cells led to the arrest of others, I would like to clarify three points in this issue:
First, these arrests were made after the appearance of events for these groups to expand their activities subversive.
Second, these arrests included the south and the north and not true to say that this campaign is against the Sunnis, the number of detainees Shiites in this matter more than the number of Sunni detainees in the case of the Baath party and the supervisor of the political process arrests a Kurd I know him well, a former lawyer, an expert, legal and personal I met him and assured me that he did not arrest any person without an order from the judiciary, and this campaign is not against all the Baathists, we still have a large number of ex-Baathists Itboaon prominent places, many of them leaders in the military and many of them are in government departments and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are no longer Saddamists no longer active in the reorganization of Saddam's Baath Party and Iraqi law does not criminalize all but deprived Baathist Saddam's Baath Party and all other Baathists have the right to be able to gain their rights in Iraq.
* I asked about the nature of these explosions, because there were comments stating that the conflict in Baghdad today is sectarian conflict, political and sectarian crisis par excellence, resulting from the bombings, sectarian in nature, do you really see today's sectarian strife in Baghdad between the politicians?
- First, the President of the Iraqi List, which is the party's foundation in the subject is Shiite, the Prime Minister the second party is a Shia and, secondly, the differences are not differences between Sunnis and Shiites, between Shia and Shia-Sunni year, for example, the Kurds Sunni, however, have differences as well as the Iraqi List, the white majority Shiites have differences with the Iraqi issue is thus not a question of the division of sectarian Shiite-Sunni, if the issue was a sectarian can see me with one of the parties As a Sunni Iraqis, the Iraqi bloc representing the majority Sunni and the Iraqi National Alliance is a Shiite majority and the two sides there are Sunni elements, the disagreement Praise be to God in Iraq did not turn to other than a Shiite - Sunni, though some people Haulo stirring sectarian strife, but there are differences in the truth about how to manage the state, for example, in conflict with opponents say yes there is a partnership in the true positions, Vice President of the Republic Sunni, Sunni speaker of parliament, many ministers years, Deputy Prime Minister a Sunni, but they say we are located in positions, which means the partnership exist in the positions, but the partnership does not exist in the state administration, this is their position, others say no, you are present in all circles, the Parliament and ministries and to you that you will your business, then there are differences, we are, God willing, to resolve these differences and so we will put Iraq on the right track, I mean to be a government of national partnership and a real partnership not only in the positions, but a partnership in the management of the state, in the management of Iraq policy, so there is a proposal that look at the next issue of a road map for Iraq after the withdrawal of U.S. troops.
* There have been statements of the spokesman for the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) said that there is an Arab and international support for the initiative of a national initiative of your Excellency and the National Congress, in support of these countries or parties?
- Regionally, Iran and Turkey supported the convening of this Conference and, as I know, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia also supported the conference, the Secretary-General of the Arab League, told me personally that the Arab League supports this conference and wish him success, the Americans and Europeans are in favor of this conference, orientation and China also supports so we can say that There are domestic support regional and international resolve Iraq's problems through this conference.
* What is your comment on the statements issued by the state law says that the host Jalal Talabani, Hashemi make the article (4) of the Terrorism Act apply to you?
- These statements were not of state law, which condemned the role of these statements are for one person from the list of state law, Sheikh Khalid al-Attiyah, spokesman for the state law condemned the remarks and forced that person to come and say that he did not intend, and these statements are void because the professor Tariq al-Hashimi is not governed so protect him, it is this very moment the vice president is accused and the accused is innocent until proven guilty and these statements false claim that a person does not understand the law and the meaning of terrorism and the rule of terror, Tariq al-Hashimi to now is not a terrorist, but the accused and the accused is innocent until proven guilty, and also that Tariq al-Hashemi did not escape even said I hugged him, he wants to come to court in Kirkuk and accept the results of government.
* His Excellency the President Thank you very much.
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