Home
Nabil el-Arabi: just the Arab summit in Baghdad achievement
03/25/2012 | (Voice of Iraq)
Cairo - Mohammed Chadli - Dar Al-Hayat said the Secretary-General of the Arab League, Dr. Nabil el-Arabi that simply holding the Arab summit in Baghdad «achievement», denying that the internal problems of Iraq on its agenda. said Arab in a dialogue with the «life» on the eve of his departure from Cairo to Baghdad head of a delegation from the Secretariat of the University to inspect the preparations for the summit will discuss the Palestinian issue and the situation in Syria, Somalia, and to help Yemen, and the establishment of a zone free of weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East.
He pointed out that holding the summit in Baghdad is one of the «to Iraq after the long ordeal», and not for «regime», hoping to represent the high of the participating countries. He pointed out that international organizations will participate, not the heads of non-Arab countries, and said that 29 countries asked to participate, including the «Iran and Turkey, were rejected applications». He pointed to shorten the summit's agenda of ten items and preparatory meetings to two only, in addition to a session of the summit.
And the text of the interview:> How do you see to the Arab summit in Baghdad? - Must be borne in mind that last year, despite what we have seen from real changes on the ground, all the Arab states, each of which is in accordance with what he could, and changed systems of their people is unacceptable. There are countries and their governments conducted amendments and continues to change and development. This is required. Last year there were not the summit. We must therefore look at them on the basis that just held in Baghdad achievement.
The topics are predetermined. Before the summit, foreign ministers met earlier this month, the delegates gathered a few days ago, and identified themes at the head of course, the Palestinian issue and the situation in some Arab countries such as Syria and Yemen, which emerged from the ordeal, and Somalia, who lives in distress, and the subject matter of all Arab countries is the creation of a zone free of nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East.> Is the summit will discuss the internal problems of Iraq? - domestic issues in the Arab countries is on the agenda of a summit.
Delegates did not decide this, and the foreign ministers will meet on the eve of the summit (Wednesday) and did not put a single state of this subject.> Components in Iraq, had refused the top of the foundation, because to be held in Baghdad, supports the government of Nouri al-Maliki at the last meeting of the Ministers of Foreign Affairs circulated statement on behalf of the year refused to be held because it supports Maliki and not a rejection of the Arab leaders? - they are free in their opinion, of course, but the Secretariat of the University looks at the summit as the summit of Iraq, not the political system ruling, the summit is Iraq's capital, after the ordeal long over, and the wars and the regime of Saddam Hussein before. Iraq is a state institution, a big country, a state primary in the system of Arab action, to regain its position.>
This is the third summit in Baghdad after the summits 78 and 90 what your calendar for the efforts of Iraq and we would not last a moment of doubt in the possibility of the session? - The Iraqi government did everything possible to ensure the success of this summit and placed at the disposal of all potential security delegations, organizational, administrative and, God willing, will be a successful summit.>
Iraq sees an opportunity to return to the Arab world. Was away to this extent? - Iraq had internal problems, occupation, and foreign soldiers, whatever the reason for their entry, and the day after the end of all this, it is deserved to regain his place in the heart of the Arab world.> Does the university information about participating or the level of representation? - Information is not accurate because some of them will decide at the last moment.
But I hope that there be a large number of heads of state. I can not I set the number.> Has announced that the Gulf Cooperation Council states that the level of representation depends on the circumstances? - Some Gulf countries will be represented at the level of head of state.> Would you pay the host countries eighth previous positions? Is the level of representation is a pressure in the Arab summits? - I would not be any reason for this summit.
The threat of increasing or decreasing the level of representation should not be a pressure. Each State the right to determine its representative. And those who attend the Summit. > Charter does not provide for a quorum for the summit is not it? - The summit is not a personal matter. These posts which states that determine the level of representation.> Some expressed fears of Iranian interference in the work of the summit, and dictate some of the positions on Baghdad, and therefore the decisions do you feel that? - No. Will not be achieved nothing from this. Arab Summit and not for any other country as a means to pressure, even if we assume that there is a state you want to pass something through another state, the decision at the summit, not a majority of the host country.>
Is the problem of Baghdad security summit? - We have finished this. Summit in a timely manner.> There is a security crisis? Reports indicate that the complaint of the citizens of Baghdad unprecedented action? - The unprecedented security measures are not to anger people. It also does not refer to a crisis and I will be in Baghdad today. > Who will attend the foreign entities from countries and organizations. Last in the Sirte summit was attended by Heads of State? - All countries that the audience was asked to apologize to them.>
Request from the audience? - 29 countries from Japan to Latin America.> And Iran? - Of course. And Turkey. Was rejected.> Why? - Full insurance. And to prevent political problems. Will attend the Secretary-General of the United Nations, the Secretary-General of the Organization of Islamic cooperation, and the President of the African Union Commission. The EU Commissioner.> Did reasons of security and political to limit the agenda of ten items and limiting sessions to three? - Exactly> Syria would not participate do would be present absent? - Yes, because we will discuss the Syrian issue as a key in the framework of the resolutions issued by the University Council Ministerial.>
Is the summit would produce decisions and the Conference of Foreign Ministers and friends in Syria, Tunisia or is there another step? - There is a new step? Please do not ever think in this direction because the last step taken was to bear fruit after. General Assembly of the United Nations decided to appoint an envoy in common with the Arab League, and after searching many names had been agreed and the appointment of Mr. Kofi Annan, former Secretary General of the United Nations to be represented by a joint United Nations and the Arab League, and also agreed to appoint his deputy, Dr. Nasser Al-Kidwa, which will be located at the top of Baghdad, and because the Annan dates at this time in Moscow and Beijing.
Annan made specific points like the points that we made such as the League Arab since 13 July last, was released by the presidential statement of the Security Council two days ago, this is an important step and a pointer to the change in the position of Russia and China, this is not a binding decision. It's just a statement. After a tour of Annan and Baghdad after the summit and the issuance of a unified position, will pour all of this in the Security Council. After that will be issued a binding decision of the Security Council to continue to lead the political process in the framework established by the decisions of the Arab League, and another path which is urgent and immediate halt to all forms of violence because it is the Syrian people are killed on both sides.
These steps will be channeled to then in the Security Council to issue a binding resolution to stop the violence and begin to resolve the crisis within the framework of the Arab resolutions.> Do you claim the Syrian president to step down are excluded now? - True.> Task Annan has already begun and the presidential statement was issued, will there be a report from Annan or role models before the summit? - in my report I will speak about this. I was in Geneva on Thursday and promised Annan met three times.>
Without addressing the substance of your report. What do you say to Arab leaders for two weeks to the task of harvesting Annan and example? - I will say that Annan went to Damascus and spoke with the Syrian regime and view the proposals and respond to the request within 48 hours. He received a response. But inadequate response and therefore The steps continue. I will refer to the United Nations has sent two missions, the mission of the things human experience problems, and the mission to arrange for the presence of observers to verify the cessation of violence and supervision, has received Annan's report yesterday and I expect to hear from him prior to the summit.>
Do you lower the level of violence? Are there any positive development after the Annan mission? - No ... I can not say that. I do not have accurate information. Monitors the university when he was on the ground a large decline in murder rate. But their number was limited. Worked for twenty-four hours. To be an appropriate mechanism of control and supervision to end the violence.> Do you will receive the fate of the mission Arabic? - We had to pull the mission because the number decreased.> What are your expectations for the content of the summit's decision on the status of Syrian? - Will be in the frame that you mentioned.> You're interested in the restructuring of institutions of the University .
Why? - International organizations began, in fact, after the First World War. The League of Nations, and considered the first generation of international organizations. When the Charter of the University shall be prepared in September and November (October) in 1944, before the adoption of the Charter of the United Nations in 1945. Asagouna was influenced by the ideas and philosophy and mechanisms in the League of Nations.
The second generation of organizations: the United Nations. Of taking measures against a third organizations. Ideas forward as mechanisms. And the third generation such as the European Union, and the difference between the second generation of organizations such as the United Nations, the third generation, is that the United Nations is not a full democracy, unfortunately, because the Security Council, according to the Charter allows any of the five permanent members to stop any decision. There is no democracy true at the international level.
The third generation, such as the European Union as soon as the decisions and implement the intervention legislation. United Nations in a wide gap between the issuance of decisions and their implementation, even the decisions of the Security Council. Resolution 242 that Israel withdraw from occupied Arab territories was the consensus of State and carried him so far with regard to Egypt and Jordan was not implemented for Syria and Palestine. Charter of the University Bmenhjh and philosophy falls under the first generation of international organizations. Of course can not be transmitted from the first generation to third generation easily.>
So how do you see the possibility of development in the university? - There are two things we must differentiate between the two, I: performance improvement, restructuring, and this issue of the powers of the Secretary-General and all Arab countries are welcome, secondly reforms or development required the university to be able to undertake new responsibilities ... There has become the responsibility of supervising and monitoring elections (96 observers to Algeria after a month). Request from the university to send a team of observers to Syria. It was a new subject, and asked assistance from the United Nations and the European Union and sent a team in just four days because the killing was going on.>
I understand that you focus on the Charter to gain access to the concept and specifications of the second generation of international organizations? - In order to enter some of the concepts are generally accepted, we have a request from Bahrain - for example - and I appreciate for the establishment of the Court of Human Rights Arab, any individual Arab to advance to a complaint, and this progress in thought, we will study the demand and do not know how it will be, we have a transitional parliament, and we want to convert to permanent.>
This requires amendment of the Charter? - no. You can add supplements to the Charter, but it is imperative that we look to the future, The Charter of the United Nations in Article 109 expressly provided for review in each period of time, even if not a State requests a provision of the amendments is placed automatically every ten years, and I want to develop a mechanism for continuous review the Charter of the University because the reforms and development is not a process per day. >
The people is satisfied with the performance of the university and some people talked about the desire of the University of peoples, not governments after the revolutions of University Arab spring. What do you think? - Out of the question at all, I hope those who raised that refers to an international organization made up of peoples. We are at a certain stage of the contemporary international organization, based on that all governmental organizations, but there is a difference which is that there are many countries where the government respond to requests for people and situations that you want to take their peoples. I hope that the Arab states move to this stage, and governments are representative of the people.> There is talk of a parallel parliament, for example. University or equivalent. -
Welcome. I have nothing to do with this. Welcome them. All attempts are useful, but let me say that the university respects the Arab peoples is open to all peoples and governments equally, and some get angry from the word «equally» This. But listen, and generalize all these memoranda that are meetings with representatives of the peoples at the headquarters of the Secretariat. The door is open. But the Arab League is an organization of states, not peoples, like all international organizations.
Read more: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
03/25/2012 | (Voice of Iraq)
Cairo - Mohammed Chadli - Dar Al-Hayat said the Secretary-General of the Arab League, Dr. Nabil el-Arabi that simply holding the Arab summit in Baghdad «achievement», denying that the internal problems of Iraq on its agenda. said Arab in a dialogue with the «life» on the eve of his departure from Cairo to Baghdad head of a delegation from the Secretariat of the University to inspect the preparations for the summit will discuss the Palestinian issue and the situation in Syria, Somalia, and to help Yemen, and the establishment of a zone free of weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East.
He pointed out that holding the summit in Baghdad is one of the «to Iraq after the long ordeal», and not for «regime», hoping to represent the high of the participating countries. He pointed out that international organizations will participate, not the heads of non-Arab countries, and said that 29 countries asked to participate, including the «Iran and Turkey, were rejected applications». He pointed to shorten the summit's agenda of ten items and preparatory meetings to two only, in addition to a session of the summit.
And the text of the interview:> How do you see to the Arab summit in Baghdad? - Must be borne in mind that last year, despite what we have seen from real changes on the ground, all the Arab states, each of which is in accordance with what he could, and changed systems of their people is unacceptable. There are countries and their governments conducted amendments and continues to change and development. This is required. Last year there were not the summit. We must therefore look at them on the basis that just held in Baghdad achievement.
The topics are predetermined. Before the summit, foreign ministers met earlier this month, the delegates gathered a few days ago, and identified themes at the head of course, the Palestinian issue and the situation in some Arab countries such as Syria and Yemen, which emerged from the ordeal, and Somalia, who lives in distress, and the subject matter of all Arab countries is the creation of a zone free of nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East.> Is the summit will discuss the internal problems of Iraq? - domestic issues in the Arab countries is on the agenda of a summit.
Delegates did not decide this, and the foreign ministers will meet on the eve of the summit (Wednesday) and did not put a single state of this subject.> Components in Iraq, had refused the top of the foundation, because to be held in Baghdad, supports the government of Nouri al-Maliki at the last meeting of the Ministers of Foreign Affairs circulated statement on behalf of the year refused to be held because it supports Maliki and not a rejection of the Arab leaders? - they are free in their opinion, of course, but the Secretariat of the University looks at the summit as the summit of Iraq, not the political system ruling, the summit is Iraq's capital, after the ordeal long over, and the wars and the regime of Saddam Hussein before. Iraq is a state institution, a big country, a state primary in the system of Arab action, to regain its position.>
This is the third summit in Baghdad after the summits 78 and 90 what your calendar for the efforts of Iraq and we would not last a moment of doubt in the possibility of the session? - The Iraqi government did everything possible to ensure the success of this summit and placed at the disposal of all potential security delegations, organizational, administrative and, God willing, will be a successful summit.>
Iraq sees an opportunity to return to the Arab world. Was away to this extent? - Iraq had internal problems, occupation, and foreign soldiers, whatever the reason for their entry, and the day after the end of all this, it is deserved to regain his place in the heart of the Arab world.> Does the university information about participating or the level of representation? - Information is not accurate because some of them will decide at the last moment.
But I hope that there be a large number of heads of state. I can not I set the number.> Has announced that the Gulf Cooperation Council states that the level of representation depends on the circumstances? - Some Gulf countries will be represented at the level of head of state.> Would you pay the host countries eighth previous positions? Is the level of representation is a pressure in the Arab summits? - I would not be any reason for this summit.
The threat of increasing or decreasing the level of representation should not be a pressure. Each State the right to determine its representative. And those who attend the Summit. > Charter does not provide for a quorum for the summit is not it? - The summit is not a personal matter. These posts which states that determine the level of representation.> Some expressed fears of Iranian interference in the work of the summit, and dictate some of the positions on Baghdad, and therefore the decisions do you feel that? - No. Will not be achieved nothing from this. Arab Summit and not for any other country as a means to pressure, even if we assume that there is a state you want to pass something through another state, the decision at the summit, not a majority of the host country.>
Is the problem of Baghdad security summit? - We have finished this. Summit in a timely manner.> There is a security crisis? Reports indicate that the complaint of the citizens of Baghdad unprecedented action? - The unprecedented security measures are not to anger people. It also does not refer to a crisis and I will be in Baghdad today. > Who will attend the foreign entities from countries and organizations. Last in the Sirte summit was attended by Heads of State? - All countries that the audience was asked to apologize to them.>
Request from the audience? - 29 countries from Japan to Latin America.> And Iran? - Of course. And Turkey. Was rejected.> Why? - Full insurance. And to prevent political problems. Will attend the Secretary-General of the United Nations, the Secretary-General of the Organization of Islamic cooperation, and the President of the African Union Commission. The EU Commissioner.> Did reasons of security and political to limit the agenda of ten items and limiting sessions to three? - Exactly> Syria would not participate do would be present absent? - Yes, because we will discuss the Syrian issue as a key in the framework of the resolutions issued by the University Council Ministerial.>
Is the summit would produce decisions and the Conference of Foreign Ministers and friends in Syria, Tunisia or is there another step? - There is a new step? Please do not ever think in this direction because the last step taken was to bear fruit after. General Assembly of the United Nations decided to appoint an envoy in common with the Arab League, and after searching many names had been agreed and the appointment of Mr. Kofi Annan, former Secretary General of the United Nations to be represented by a joint United Nations and the Arab League, and also agreed to appoint his deputy, Dr. Nasser Al-Kidwa, which will be located at the top of Baghdad, and because the Annan dates at this time in Moscow and Beijing.
Annan made specific points like the points that we made such as the League Arab since 13 July last, was released by the presidential statement of the Security Council two days ago, this is an important step and a pointer to the change in the position of Russia and China, this is not a binding decision. It's just a statement. After a tour of Annan and Baghdad after the summit and the issuance of a unified position, will pour all of this in the Security Council. After that will be issued a binding decision of the Security Council to continue to lead the political process in the framework established by the decisions of the Arab League, and another path which is urgent and immediate halt to all forms of violence because it is the Syrian people are killed on both sides.
These steps will be channeled to then in the Security Council to issue a binding resolution to stop the violence and begin to resolve the crisis within the framework of the Arab resolutions.> Do you claim the Syrian president to step down are excluded now? - True.> Task Annan has already begun and the presidential statement was issued, will there be a report from Annan or role models before the summit? - in my report I will speak about this. I was in Geneva on Thursday and promised Annan met three times.>
Without addressing the substance of your report. What do you say to Arab leaders for two weeks to the task of harvesting Annan and example? - I will say that Annan went to Damascus and spoke with the Syrian regime and view the proposals and respond to the request within 48 hours. He received a response. But inadequate response and therefore The steps continue. I will refer to the United Nations has sent two missions, the mission of the things human experience problems, and the mission to arrange for the presence of observers to verify the cessation of violence and supervision, has received Annan's report yesterday and I expect to hear from him prior to the summit.>
Do you lower the level of violence? Are there any positive development after the Annan mission? - No ... I can not say that. I do not have accurate information. Monitors the university when he was on the ground a large decline in murder rate. But their number was limited. Worked for twenty-four hours. To be an appropriate mechanism of control and supervision to end the violence.> Do you will receive the fate of the mission Arabic? - We had to pull the mission because the number decreased.> What are your expectations for the content of the summit's decision on the status of Syrian? - Will be in the frame that you mentioned.> You're interested in the restructuring of institutions of the University .
Why? - International organizations began, in fact, after the First World War. The League of Nations, and considered the first generation of international organizations. When the Charter of the University shall be prepared in September and November (October) in 1944, before the adoption of the Charter of the United Nations in 1945. Asagouna was influenced by the ideas and philosophy and mechanisms in the League of Nations.
The second generation of organizations: the United Nations. Of taking measures against a third organizations. Ideas forward as mechanisms. And the third generation such as the European Union, and the difference between the second generation of organizations such as the United Nations, the third generation, is that the United Nations is not a full democracy, unfortunately, because the Security Council, according to the Charter allows any of the five permanent members to stop any decision. There is no democracy true at the international level.
The third generation, such as the European Union as soon as the decisions and implement the intervention legislation. United Nations in a wide gap between the issuance of decisions and their implementation, even the decisions of the Security Council. Resolution 242 that Israel withdraw from occupied Arab territories was the consensus of State and carried him so far with regard to Egypt and Jordan was not implemented for Syria and Palestine. Charter of the University Bmenhjh and philosophy falls under the first generation of international organizations. Of course can not be transmitted from the first generation to third generation easily.>
So how do you see the possibility of development in the university? - There are two things we must differentiate between the two, I: performance improvement, restructuring, and this issue of the powers of the Secretary-General and all Arab countries are welcome, secondly reforms or development required the university to be able to undertake new responsibilities ... There has become the responsibility of supervising and monitoring elections (96 observers to Algeria after a month). Request from the university to send a team of observers to Syria. It was a new subject, and asked assistance from the United Nations and the European Union and sent a team in just four days because the killing was going on.>
I understand that you focus on the Charter to gain access to the concept and specifications of the second generation of international organizations? - In order to enter some of the concepts are generally accepted, we have a request from Bahrain - for example - and I appreciate for the establishment of the Court of Human Rights Arab, any individual Arab to advance to a complaint, and this progress in thought, we will study the demand and do not know how it will be, we have a transitional parliament, and we want to convert to permanent.>
This requires amendment of the Charter? - no. You can add supplements to the Charter, but it is imperative that we look to the future, The Charter of the United Nations in Article 109 expressly provided for review in each period of time, even if not a State requests a provision of the amendments is placed automatically every ten years, and I want to develop a mechanism for continuous review the Charter of the University because the reforms and development is not a process per day. >
The people is satisfied with the performance of the university and some people talked about the desire of the University of peoples, not governments after the revolutions of University Arab spring. What do you think? - Out of the question at all, I hope those who raised that refers to an international organization made up of peoples. We are at a certain stage of the contemporary international organization, based on that all governmental organizations, but there is a difference which is that there are many countries where the government respond to requests for people and situations that you want to take their peoples. I hope that the Arab states move to this stage, and governments are representative of the people.> There is talk of a parallel parliament, for example. University or equivalent. -
Welcome. I have nothing to do with this. Welcome them. All attempts are useful, but let me say that the university respects the Arab peoples is open to all peoples and governments equally, and some get angry from the word «equally» This. But listen, and generalize all these memoranda that are meetings with representatives of the peoples at the headquarters of the Secretariat. The door is open. But the Arab League is an organization of states, not peoples, like all international organizations.
Read more: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
